Radical Piano vs Reason Piano"s...Which is better?

[mreese80]

I was browsing youtube videos today and came across radical pianos. I know it's been out but i never paid it no mind. It sounded pretty good. How do you guys rate it or compare it to reason pianos?

[sonicbyte]

Hi,

I have Reason Pianos refill and Radical Piano RE. Both are great, however the RE are more versatile in my opinion, for instance, you can use the sustain pedal in between on/off stages (like a real piano), or you can make external audio (like a voice) to be feed into Radical Piano modelling core to "resonate" with it and that will give you lots of crazy possibilities, among other things the refill can't do.

Regards

[mreese80]

Hi,

I have Reason Pianos refill and Radical Piano RE. Both are great, however the RE are more versatile in my opinion, for instance, you can use the sustain pedal in between on/off stages (like a real piano), or you can make external audio (like a voice) to be feed into Radical Piano modelling core to "resonate" with it and that will give you lots of crazy possibilities, among other things the refill can't do.

Regards

It really sounds good. For some reason i thought it would sound like a damn toy so i never gave it a listen.

[PGR]

I prefer Radical Piano Re for the feel when playing but Reason Piano Refill for the sound. If that makes sense?

But there is still room for more and better pianos for Reason.

[riemac]

If you are searching for a good dance piano, the F9 piano is the best.

[mreese80]

I prefer Radical Piano Re for the feel when playing but Reason Piano Refill for the sound. If that makes sense?

But there is still room for more and better pianos for Reason.

You think the reason pianos's have a more realistic sound?

[miscend]

Reason Pianos sounds quite a bit more realistic. Radical Piano doesn't quite sound 100% authentic.

[mreese80]

Reason Pianos sounds quite a bit more realistic. Radical Piano doesn't quite sound 100% authentic.

I truly believe there is something about those wave samples. I prefer refill's over rack extensions. Thank you for your info.

[Olivier]

RadPi may not sound as authentic as some sample based piano's, but as a piano player i enjoy RadPi far more then Reason Piano's because it reacts much more natural to dynamic playing and is therefor for me the more musical of the two.

[kuhliloach]

I really like Radical Piano with the Roland DP-10 pedal assigned to the Sustain function for being smooth and gradual. I have the DP-10 plugged into the Volume port on an M-Audio 88es, then mapped properly in Reason. I had my eye on Radical Piano for a year or more, then finally bought it when it went on sale / bundle. Radical Piano is a piano monster that can do wild and crazy things. Even on sale Radical Piano remains one of the most expensive pieces of software I have ever purchased.

The Refill is a traditional style in-the-box piano that does sound amazing, but the Rack Extension is all about the user interface.

They did a great job on the "noise" in Radical Piano. Very convincing. It fakes me out.

What I don't understand is the insane cost of these pianos. They must think we are rich. It remains unclear to me why a typical iOS piano is so much more affordable than a Reason piano. Korg's Module for example, or IK's Grands. Is there something incredibly costly about developing a Reason piano that would make them charge so much? Is someone trying to get rich from selling software pianos? There are plenty of ways to bring iOS piano tracks into Reason. You could potentially afford 2 iOS pianos, Audiobus, and Audioshare for less than half the cost of one of these Reason pianos. Probably a few dinners too. Add an iPad MIDI adapter and the total cost is still below one single Reason piano.

[Gulale]

I will go with Reason Piano Refill all day every day. Radical doesn't sound natural to me.

[QVprod]

If you want authentic and natural sound, go for the refill. Not because it's a refill, but because Radical is a modeled piano (with some sampling) and quite honestly not a very impressive one.

Radical is better for tweaking the sound into anything that isn't authentic though. It's more like a piano synth.

However, as I say in all threads with this comparison (it seems to come up a few times a year lol), There are considerably better piano options outside of Reason. Recently got Arturia Piano V with a Keylab 88 purchase. For a modeled piano, it's very impressive.

[Ottostrom]

I really like Radical Piano with the Roland DP-10 pedal assigned to the Sustain function for being smooth and gradual. I have the DP-10 plugged into the Volume port on an M-Audio 88es, then mapped properly in Reason.

I was thinking about getting a Roland DP-10, but I'm afraid that it's the wrong polarity for my keyboard.
Does the pedal have a lot of sound when you press it down or let it up?

[joeyluck]

I have them both and like them both! Although, Abbey Road Keyboards is my favorite

[mreese80]

I really like Radical Piano with the Roland DP-10 pedal assigned to the Sustain function for being smooth and gradual. I have the DP-10 plugged into the Volume port on an M-Audio 88es, then mapped properly in Reason. I had my eye on Radical Piano for a year or more, then finally bought it when it went on sale / bundle. Radical Piano is a piano monster that can do wild and crazy things. Even on sale Radical Piano remains one of the most expensive pieces of software I have ever purchased.

The Refill is a traditional style in-the-box piano that does sound amazing, but the Rack Extension is all about the user interface.

They did a great job on the "noise" in Radical Piano. Very convincing. It fakes me out.

What I don't understand is the insane cost of these pianos. They must think we are rich. It remains unclear to me why a typical iOS piano is so much more affordable than a Reason piano. Korg's Module for example, or IK's Grands. Is there something incredibly costly about developing a Reason piano that would make them charge so much? Is someone trying to get rich from selling software pianos? There are plenty of ways to bring iOS piano tracks into Reason. You could potentially afford 2 iOS pianos, Audiobus, and Audioshare for less than half the cost of one of these Reason pianos. Probably a few dinners too. Add an iPad MIDI adapter and the total cost is still below one single Reason piano.

Everything imo is expensive when it comes to Reason. We have to pay to notch for reason devices. We have to pay for every damn upgrade. Other daws i have like akai, fl studio, ect have free updates. Now with the new akai software 2.0 that is going to be released we may have to pay for that one. How much yet still isnt known. I really don't mind paying for a new version update of reason as long as it's worth it. As far as devices i don't buy. I have way to many vsts and kontakt libraries. i just bounce the audio and drag into reason. I just love the work flow of reason and the sequencer is unbeatable. This is the closest we'll get real hardware in a software world. I take that back. I'll buy fx devices.

[mreese80]

I have them both and like them both! Although, Abbey Road Keyboards is my favorite

I bet you like those Mrs. Chills Piano's dont'cha lol.

[joeyluck]

I have them both and like them both! Although, Abbey Road Keyboards is my favorite

I bet you like those Mrs. Chills Piano's dont'cha lol.

I do like the Mrs. Mills! But it's actually the Challen that I prefer

[PGR]

I have them both and like them both! Although, Abbey Road Keyboards is my favorite

Yes, lots of character , like this old Refill from Sonic Flavours Home Piano:

http://www.sonicflavours.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=60

[Ottostrom]

I have them both and like them both! Although, Abbey Road Keyboards is my favorite

Yes, lots of character , like this old Refill from Sonic Flavours Home Piano:

http://www.sonicflavours.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=60

Oh my, those demos sound exactly like what I'm looking for! Thank you for sharing

[miscend]

Reason Pianos sounds quite a bit more realistic. Radical Piano doesn't quite sound 100% authentic.

I truly believe there is something about those wave samples. I prefer refill's over rack extensions. Thank you for your info.

There's a few other piano options. This refill is also good and the price is not bad.
https://www.esoundz.com/sounds/alan-par ... /5248.html

And this is one of the better freeware ones! But you have to convert it to soundfont format to play it in Reason. You can PM me for assistance.
http://sonimusicae.free.fr/matshelgesso ... ro-en.html

[mreese80]

Reason Pianos sounds quite a bit more realistic. Radical Piano doesn't quite sound 100% authentic.

I truly believe there is something about those wave samples. I prefer refill's over rack extensions. Thank you for your info.

There's a few other piano options. This refill is also good and the price is not bad.
https://www.esoundz.com/sounds/alan-par ... /5248.html

And this is one of the better freeware ones! But you have to convert it to soundfont format to play it in Reason. You can PM me for assistance.
http://sonimusicae.free.fr/matshelgesso ... ro-en.html

I have the maestreo grando. I converted that one a long time ago. it's in a giga format if i remember right.

[gullum]

I have bout but only use Radical it's just easter to load into the rack

[jutty P]

I actually really like Emotional Piano by Soundiron. I've tried them all but that one just has something special. Fits my style. Give it a try.

[mreese80]

I actually really like Emotional Piano by Soundiron. I've tried them all but that one just has something special. Fits my style. Give it a try.

Wow. I must say i do agree with you man

[Ottostrom]

I actually really like Emotional Piano by Soundiron. I've tried them all but that one just has something special. Fits my style. Give it a try.

Wow. I must say i do agree with you man

It can be a pain to work with though!
I really like the sound of it but the levels between different notes is somewhat inconsistent, so you have to watch out for clipping.