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The individual modules can be used in other Softube products such as Modular and Amp Room.
Clearly buy DIVA before you get this one.
The Legend has been on deep sale at $50, and BF is getting closer...
I spent an hour this morning making patches in both The Legend and Model 72, running them side-by-side... and my instant reaction was...
Thanks. Wasn't expecting this.danc wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020I spent an hour this morning making patches in both The Legend and Model 72, running them side-by-side... and my instant reaction was...
The Legend sounded more "digital" "hard" "snappy" ... whereas the M72 sounded more "analogue" "warm" "creamy". The M72 sounded like what I expect a vintage hardware Moog to sound like.
Then I made a range of different types of sounds (bass, leads, pads etc.) using matched settings on both. They were poles apart from each other. Even with a few tweaks to try and match them up they still didn't sound the same. M72 being always warmer.
I have a Moog Sub 37 which sounds more like Legend than it does the M72. Be clear The Legend can't do the modulation tricks of the Sub 37, so I'm in no rush to get rid of the Sub 37. The Sub 37 is known to be more "modern" sounding Moog than say the Model D. What it does tell me is that the M72 is a closer sound to the Moog Model D than The Legend or Sub 37.
I know you'd want to see videos and examples and no-doubt they'll appear soon enough online. Didn't have time to make one myself.
Bottom line... I think you should give M72 a run and not try and mix it up with The Legend. The controls look similar, but they are definitely different beasts. If you want that retro Moog sound, then jump for M72. If you want a more modern Moog sound, then jump for The Legend.
I agree - I wasn't expecting it either. Whatever the reason... for me, M27 just sounds more alive and animated. After trying it out again for another hour I bought it - which might seem mad as I have this area covered in The Legend, plus Arturia's Mini and Modular V. For me it is light an dark better. Picked up for $79 using code (see posts above).Marco Raaphorst wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020Thanks. Wasn't expecting this.danc wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020
I spent an hour this morning making patches in both The Legend and Model 72, running them side-by-side... and my instant reaction was...
The Legend sounded more "digital" "hard" "snappy" ... whereas the M72 sounded more "analogue" "warm" "creamy". The M72 sounded like what I expect a vintage hardware Moog to sound like.
Then I made a range of different types of sounds (bass, leads, pads etc.) using matched settings on both. They were poles apart from each other. Even with a few tweaks to try and match them up they still didn't sound the same. M72 being always warmer.
I have a Moog Sub 37 which sounds more like Legend than it does the M72. Be clear The Legend can't do the modulation tricks of the Sub 37, so I'm in no rush to get rid of the Sub 37. The Sub 37 is known to be more "modern" sounding Moog than say the Model D. What it does tell me is that the M72 is a closer sound to the Moog Model D than The Legend or Sub 37.
I know you'd want to see videos and examples and no-doubt they'll appear soon enough online. Didn't have time to make one myself.
Bottom line... I think you should give M72 a run and not try and mix it up with The Legend. The controls look similar, but they are definitely different beasts. If you want that retro Moog sound, then jump for M72. If you want a more modern Moog sound, then jump for The Legend.
I thought The Legend was the best Moog sim ever. A/B I wasn't able to tell which is which compared to a real Moog. Maybe this one is dirtier. Will try it out. Thanks!
I've been eyeing the Behringer Model D - however... my pause to not buy isn't because of the extra cost compared to say Model 27... it is actually because the Boog doesn't respond to midi CC (send or receive). So - you have to record everything real-time. Which is great for that "live" feel, but rubbish if you want to do intricate razor tight automation.
I send MIDI out of Reason to retriever the Model D all the time. Why can't you do so?danc wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020I've been eyeing the Behringer Model D - however... my pause to not buy isn't because of the extra cost compared to say Model 27... it is actually because the Boog doesn't respond to midi CC (send or receive). So - you have to record everything real-time. Which is great for that "live" feel, but rubbish if you want to do intricate razor tight automation.
So - for me, the M27 is a great compromise. Maybe not as authentic and great sounding as a Boog, but has the ability to be automated as much as I please.
Plus - I only just picked up a Korg Minilogue XD and so... I really should be keeping an eye on my GAS issues! Me have GAS, you have GAS, we all have GAS!
Behringer Model D can receive Midi... But as far as I have read it doesn't respond to midi CC data. So I won't be able to automate cut off etc.Kalm wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020I send MIDI out of Reason to retriever the Model D all the time. Why can't you do so?danc wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020
I've been eyeing the Behringer Model D - however... my pause to not buy isn't because of the extra cost compared to say Model 27... it is actually because the Boog doesn't respond to midi CC (send or receive). So - you have to record everything real-time. Which is great for that "live" feel, but rubbish if you want to do intricate razor tight automation.
So - for me, the M27 is a great compromise. Maybe not as authentic and great sounding as a Boog, but has the ability to be automated as much as I please.
Plus - I only just picked up a Korg Minilogue XD and so... I really should be keeping an eye on my GAS issues! Me have GAS, you have GAS, we all have GAS!
Interesting. I can hear some differences, some things i like more than the others. But if someone would ask me "which one is a real one?", i wouldnt mind in any way.
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