Balance may be a “dead product” but it’s still an Ignition Key. Right?

[MrFigg]

This has been done before but why can’t Reason 11 be authorized on Balance. Yep...I hear you. “It’s a dead product “you say (over and over and over again) but...it says in the manual it’s an Ignition Key. If I can Authorize Reason 11 on an IK then why can’t I Authorize it on my Balance? I don’t need any support for the product, my Reason 10 license sits there nicely, my Balance isn’t broken so why did RS remove the ability to use my IK in Balance? Balance may be a dead product but the Ignition Key is not. (Yet).

[earwig83]

If you install reason 11, it will no longer work as a key but can still work as a sound card.

[MrFigg]

If you install reason 11, it will no longer work as a key but can still work as a sound card.

I know. I can’t understand why they took away the ability to use it as a key when the function remains the same and the option is still available for previous versions. It still is a code meter and was advertised as such.

[kinkujin]

If you install reason 11, it will no longer work as a key but can still work as a sound card.

I know. I can’t understand why they took away the ability to use it as a key when the function remains the same and the option is still available for previous versions. It still is a code meter and was advertised as such.

Yes, weird and why remove such an authorize function to those that purchased it? Me being one. I still use mine.

How about those old usb keys? Do they still work? I have one in a box from Reason "RECORD" that I got in an ebay bundle.

[MrFigg]

I know. I can’t understand why they took away the ability to use it as a key when the function remains the same and the option is still available for previous versions. It still is a code meter and was advertised as such.

Yes, weird and why remove such an authorize function to those that purchased it? Me being one. I still use mine.

How about those old usb keys? Do they still work? I have one in a box from Reason "RECORD" that I got in an ebay bundle.

Yeah...they still work. I just authorized the Reason Lite 11.3.1 on mine and tried loading up the RRP in another DAW. Worked a treat. No online verification.

[kinkujin]

Yes, weird and why remove such an authorize function to those that purchased it? Me being one. I still use mine.

How about those old usb keys? Do they still work? I have one in a box from Reason "RECORD" that I got in an ebay bundle.

Yeah...they still work. I just authorized the Reason Lite 11.3.1 on mine and tried loading up the RRP in another DAW. Worked a treat. No online verification.

Great. Thank you!

[dannyF]

I don't know why some people continue to promulgate the designation 'dead product'.

In most english speaking countries we would say something more like "discontinued product" or even "End of life" ( not as common ) ..... I've not heard the term "dead product" outside of this forum.

I would be willing to offer some basic counselling services in how to use english correctly.

[MrFigg]

I don't know why some people continue to promulgate the designation 'dead product'.

In most english speaking countries we would say something more like "discontinued product" or even "End of life" ( not as common ) ..... I've not heard the term "dead product" outside of this forum.

I would be willing to offer some basic counselling services in how to use english correctly.

Good. I’m sick of it too. Start with Enoch Light. It’s his favourite term. Count the times.

[dannyF]

I don't know why some people continue to promulgate the designation 'dead product'.

In most english speaking countries we would say something more like "discontinued product" or even "End of life" ( not as common ) ..... I've not heard the term "dead product" outside of this forum.

I would be willing to offer some basic counselling services in how to use english correctly.

Good. I’m sick of it too. Start with Enoch Light. It’s his favourite term. Count the times.

LOL..... I mentioned before I do not think English is his first language.... though he tried to deny it or laughs it off. I see now why you made the reference in quotations. He's being stubborn about his misuse of english for laughs or for trolling this forum.

[Skimrok]

dead right

[fullforce]

It's not supported anymore so if it doesn't work you will not get any help from PH. I mean RS.

[MrFigg]

It's not supported anymore so if it doesn't work you will not get any help from PH. I mean RS.

Yep. I know Enoch (hahaha)
But Ignition Keys are still supported and it says in black and white in the manual that it’s an Ignition Key.
But they do whatever they want. You’re right on that.

[dannyF]

This has been done before but why can’t Reason 11 be authorized on Balance. Yep...I hear you. “It’s a dead product “you say (over and over and over again) but...it says in the manual it’s an Ignition Key. If I can Authorize Reason 11 on an IK then why can’t I Authorize it on my Balance? I don’t need any support for the product, my Reason 10 license sits there nicely, my Balance isn’t broken so why did RS remove the ability to use my IK in Balance? Balance may be a dead product but the Ignition Key is not. (Yet).

is this from the latest manual?

[MrFigg]

This has been done before but why can’t Reason 11 be authorized on Balance. Yep...I hear you. “It’s a dead product “you say (over and over and over again) but...it says in the manual it’s an Ignition Key. If I can Authorize Reason 11 on an IK then why can’t I Authorize it on my Balance? I don’t need any support for the product, my Reason 10 license sits there nicely, my Balance isn’t broken so why did RS remove the ability to use my IK in Balance? Balance may be a dead product but the Ignition Key is not. (Yet).

is this from the latest manual?

It’s from the only manual.

[gullum]

I don't know why some people continue to promulgate the designation 'dead product'.

In most english speaking countries we would say something more like "discontinued product" or even "End of life" ( not as common ) ..... I've not heard the term "dead product" outside of this forum.

I would be willing to offer some basic counselling services in how to use english correctly.

it's reasontalk forum so hold back on English lessons there are a few billion people that don't have English as their first language, just be happy that we can still communicate in a way that mostly English-speaking people do understand and you don't need to learn a second language

[fullforce]

It’s from the only manual.

Actually, they took this part offline from the website after I pointed it out and asked for a free ignition key to compensate. They gave me a free ignition key.

[MrFigg]

It’s from the only manual.

Actually, they took this part offline from the website after I pointed it out and asked for a free ignition key to compensate. They gave me a free ignition key.

How long ago? The manual is still there on their website.

[fullforce]

it's reasontalk forum so hold back on English lessons there are a few billion people that don't have English as their first language, just be happy that we can still communicate in a way that mostly English-speaking people do understand and you don't need to learn a second language

My native language is not English but I'm pretty sure that Enoch's is.

[dannyF]

it's reasontalk forum so hold back on English lessons there are a few billion people that don't have English as their first language, just be happy that we can still communicate in a way that mostly English-speaking people do understand and you don't need to learn a second language

oh I totally get what you are saying and agree.

There's also a difference when people try to help someone communicate....you know, try to help them to learn what better words can be used and the eagerness of the learner ( or lack of eagerness ) to take on the new information to improve their communication skills. In this case we have a user who remains seemingly obstinate to any suggestion to help improve his word choice.

"Dead product" is simply the wrong term and most english speakers would be slightly confused at this.

A product cannot be 'dead' because it was never alive. So it doesn't work in the literal sense either.

[Bigsby]

Wow. I'm using R10 with Balance. I've been holding out for a $99 sale for the upgrade, but I'll have to think twice if it's going to break the built-in Ignition Key.

Balance has been wonky on and off with some recent Windows updates, so it might be time to finally start thinking about saying goodbye. I tend to stay with old tech until it stops working or there's some other compelling reason to change. I'm still using a midiman Oxygen 8.

I wish they would give away the Balance driver source code. It's a cool little device! Too bad it was destined to become a lonely orphan.

[Proboscis]

" Hey Hey, here's another 'fuck you' from Propellerhead ! Thanks for your support over the years, dear customer ! Have some Rewards points on us ! "

[MrFigg]

" Hey Hey, here's another 'fuck you' from Propellerhead ! Thanks for your support over the years, dear customer ! Have some Rewards points on us ! "

Best bit about it is that they put all the prices up by €10 before giving us the points.

[MrFigg]

Yep...got a reply from RS (lucky me). Balance is a dead product blah blah blah. You will get no support here not now not ever and we don't actually give a fuck that it's described as being an ignition key as you are just another in the long line of idiots we sold it to before discontinuing it after just a couple of years. We will not send you a USB stick as compensation but we can offer advice on a good tissue paper you can use to dry your eyes. Should you be interested please contact support again and we'll probably just close the ticket without even acknowledging it. Thanks and all the best from the RS Team.

[dannyF]

Yep...got a reply from RS (lucky me). Balance is a dead product blah blah blah. You will get no support here not now not ever and we don't actually give a fuck that it's described as being an ignition key as you are just another in the long line of idiots we sold it to before discontinuing it after just a couple of years. We will not send you a USB stick as compensation but we can offer advice on a good tissue paper you can use to dry your eyes. Should you be interested please contact support again and we'll probably just close the ticket without even acknowledging it. Thanks and all the best from the RS Team.

Hence my icon.

From what I've seen of RS so far I am not impressed.

Been asking for folder tracks in sequencer since 2008.

I don't take kindly having my reasonable requests totally ignored and silly apps being given priority.

[EnochLight]