Make it go slower!

[jonheal]

I am looking for a slow LFO. It seems Thor's bottoms out at .07 Hz. Pulsar, .06 Hz. Elements DS-LFO, .05HZ.

I am looking for something 10 times slower. Does such a thing exist??

[Raveshaper]

My first question is can you hear the progress of the LFO that gives you 0.05hz? Why do you need a 0.005hz speed LFO?

[jonheal]

My first question is can you hear the progress of the LFO that gives you 0.05hz? Why do you need a 0.005hz speed LFO?

Well ... yeah, it's audible. A .07 Hz cycle (in Thor) is only about 14 seconds. A 14 second filter sweep is quite noticable, so yes, I would like a 140 second filter sweep.

[selig]

My first question is can you hear the progress of the LFO that gives you 0.05hz? Why do you need a 0.005hz speed LFO?

Well ... yeah, it's audible. A .07 Hz cycle (in Thor) is only about 14 seconds. A 14 second filter sweep is quite noticable, so yes, I would like a 140 second filter sweep.

You can get around half of that (roughly 45 seconds IIRC maybe longer) with Thor by driving the rate lower using a rotary assigned to the LFO rate with a negative value.



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[jonheal]

Thank you, good sir!

[etyrnal]

Why don't you just use an automation Lane to do what you're doing?

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[etyrnal]

You could create a slow change over time that starts at a CV value of one at the beginning of your song and ends at a CV value of 2 at the end of your song If you really really wanted to.

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[jonheal]

Why don't you just use an automation Lane to do what you're doing?

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Yes, that is an option.

The way I am using Reason right now is pretty unstructured and un-song-like. I am not using the Sequencer at all. I use Reason in a way analogous to an aspect of modular synthesizer sound creation in that I connect some stuff together, then generally feed a constant open gate signal to it and then slowly and semi-randomly "help" the mysterious sound(s) evolve over a period of time.

[selig]

Why don't you just use an automation Lane to do what you're doing?

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Yes, that is an option.

The way I am using Reason right now is pretty unstructured and un-song-like. I am not using the Sequencer at all. I use it in a way analogous to an aspect of modular synthesizer sound creation in that I connect some stuff together, feed a constant open gate signal to it and then slowly and semi-randomly "help" the unknown sound(s) evolve over a period of time.

I love working that way - hope you share what you're up to!


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[jonheal]

Yes, that is an option.

The way I am using Reason right now is pretty unstructured and un-song-like. I am not using the Sequencer at all. I use it in a way analogous to an aspect of modular synthesizer sound creation in that I connect some stuff together, feed a constant open gate signal to it and then slowly and semi-randomly "help" the unknown sound(s) evolve over a period of time.

I love working that way - hope you share what you're up to!


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I'm scared to. It's probably crapolla.

[CephaloPod]

He's creating the slowest wobble-bass known to man.

[f2f2111d]

Little LFO's range is 0 to 4096hz, starting in 0.001hz increments. THAT is the LFO you're looking for, I think.

[Gaja]

Little LFO's range is 0 to 4096hz, starting in 0.001hz increments. THAT is the LFO you're looking for, I think.

Yeah I remember when beta testing little LFO, one user reported to have calculated that the slowest cycle times to be something like several years.(!)

[Gorgon]

I am looking for a slow LFO. It seems Thor's bottoms out at .07 Hz. Pulsar, .06 Hz. Elements DS-LFO, .05HZ.

I am looking for something 10 times slower. Does such a thing exist??

Ammo1200BR

Unlike basic Rack Extension CV devices such as Pulsar, which offer a handful of basic analogue waveform
shapes with largely unpredictable results created by combining basic shapes, Ammo can provide
predictable results with 136 high-calibre waveforms from basic to complex variants, with a huge rate of
fi re, from 0.001 Hz to 8.4 kHz.

[Gorgon]

Little LFO's range is 0 to 4096hz, starting in 0.001hz increments. THAT is the LFO you're looking for, I think.

That one is a lot cheaper than Ammo But Ammo has all these awesome waveforms.

[centomila]

Very very happy to see this upgrade. I will test soon as possible.

I still don't understand the version numbering. Adding hyperthreading support is a little more than a 0.0.1 upgrade for me :p
http://semver.org

[jonheal]

I had neglected Ammo and Little LFO. I have both and yes, they go slow. My problem is solved. Thanks everyone. Let the drones commence.

[AttenuationHz]

I've been meaning to ask this but was too lazy to start a thread. How would you convert the cycles of a LFO frequency to musical time. Is there an online chart or calculator to do so. There is crossover for sync in the frequency for various tempos 32/1 would be x Hz when sync is not active if you change the tempo the Hz for the frequency would be off beat to the tempo so you would have to change that also but what is the value it should be changed to. In context what is a 64/1 LFO in Hz and at what tempo?

[emilng]

I was playing around with making drones with Europa and I remembered this thread. For devices with tempo/beat syncable LFOs you can set Reason's tempo as low as 1 BPM. In Europa's case you can get an 8 Bar cycle LFO which combined with a slow tempo setting was slow enough for what I was doing.

[wils]

Why do you need a 0.005hz speed LFO?

How's that relevant? He needs one, he's asking how to do it. He doesn't have to justify why...

[emilng]

Why do you need a 0.005hz speed LFO?

How's that relevant? He needs one, he's asking how to do it. He doesn't have to justify why...

I revived this thread from many months ago hoping to share a technique I learned because I thought it was cool, but we all appreciate your relevant and positive contribution to this thread.

[ravisoni]

How's that relevant? He needs one, he's asking how to do it. He doesn't have to justify why...

I revived this thread from many months ago hoping to share a technique I learned because I thought it was cool, but we all appreciate your relevant and positive contribution to this thread.

I'd heard about the enemy of the enemy being a friend. First time I'm seeing the friend of a friend being the enemy.

[chrischrischris]

I am looking for a slow LFO. It seems Thor's bottoms out at .07 Hz. Pulsar, .06 Hz. Elements DS-LFO, .05HZ.

I am looking for something 10 times slower. Does such a thing exist??

I have struggled to find a slow Envelope setting for a while but after many purchases I found that the curve from The Matrix goes "Very" Slow. It's a little bit jittery but works fine if You set it up correctly.

I was only trying a 16 Bars gradual build for reverbs and delays etc at 118ish (It Is Capable Of Twice That IIRC).

This is actually probably not relevant to you but just in case someone needs to do this in the future I Though I could post this here. I have been meaning to comment in RT about it for a while now but have never got around to it.

Chris

[Raveshaper]

The reason i asked is because that would have a wave whose period has a cycle once every 200 seconds. That's longer than some charted songs.

I think the easiest way to do this would be to print a faster LFO by recording automation applied to a control by the CV using a combinator, then time stretching the clip to the desired size and making adjustments or smoothing by filling in points. No?

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